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Biography of John Manners 1527-1611

1525 Knighting of Henry Fitzroy

1536 Neville Triple Wedding


Family Trees

Royal Ancestry

Royal Descendants

Ancestry

On 27 Oct 1513 George Manners 11th Baron Ros Helmsley 1470-1513 (43) died. He was buried at St Leger Chantry St George's Chapel Windsor Castle. On 27 Oct 1513 His son [his father] Thomas Manners 1st Earl Rutland 1492-1543 (21) succeeded 12th Baron Ros Helmsley.

Before 1523 [his father] Thomas Manners 1st Earl Rutland 1492-1543 and [his mother] Eleanor Paston Countess Rutland 1495-1551 were married. [his mother] Eleanor Paston Countess Rutland 1495-1551 by marriage Baroness Ros Helmsley.

Knighting of Henry Fitzroy

On 18 Jun 1525 Henry Fitzroy (6) was created 1st Duke of Richmond and Somerset, 1st Earl Lincoln 7C 1525 at Bridewell Palace by his father Henry VIII (33). .
Henry Clifford 1st Earl Cumberland 1493-1542 (32) was created 1st Earl Cumberland, Warden of the West Marches and Governor of Carlisle Castle.
Henry Courtenay 1st Marquess Exeter 1496-1538 was created 1st Marquess Exeter 1C 1525.
[his father] Thomas Manners 1st Earl Rutland 1492-1543 (33) was created 1st Earl Rutland 3C 1525.
Henry Percy 5th Earl of Northumberland 1478-1527 (47) carried the Sword of State. Thomas More Chancellor Speaker 1478-1535 (47) read the patents of nobility. Charles Brandon 1st Duke Suffolk 1484-1545 (41), Thomas Grey 2nd Marquess Dorset 1477-1530 (47),.
Thomas Howard 3rd Duke Norfolk 1473-1554 (52), William Fitzalan 18th Earl Arundel 1476-1544 (49) and John Vere 14th Earl Oxford 1499-1526 (25) attended.
Around 18 Jun 1525 Henry Clifford 2nd Earl Cumberland 1517-1570 (8) and Eleanor Brandon Countess Cumberland 1519-1547 (6) were married (he was her half third cousin) at Bridewell Palace. .

Around 1525 Unknown Painter. Netherlands. Portrait of Henry VIII King England and Ireland 1491-1547 (33).

Around 1543 Unknown Painter. Portrait of Charles Brandon 1st Duke Suffolk 1484-1545 (59).

In 1527 John Manners 1527-1611 was born to [his father] Thomas Manners 1st Earl Rutland 1492-1543 (35) and [his mother] Eleanor Paston Countess Rutland 1495-1551 (32).

1536 Neville Triple Wedding

On 02 Jul 1536 three weddings between the Neville, and Manners and Vere families, were celebrated at one mass at Holywell Shoreditch Hackney. Those present included Thomas Audley 1st Baron Audley Waldon 1488-1544 (48), Thomas Howard 3rd Duke Norfolk 1473-1554 (63), Charles Brandon 1st Duke Suffolk 1484-1545 (52), Henry Grey 1st Duke Suffolk 1517-1554 (19), Henry Courtenay 1st Marquess Exeter 1496-1538, John Vere 15th Earl Oxford 1471-1540 (65) and Ralph Neville 4th Earl Westmoreland 1498-1549 (38).
Henry Neville 5th Earl Westmoreland 1525-1563 (11) and [his sister] Anne Manners 1527-1549 (9) were married (he was her half fourth cousin),.
[his brother] Henry Manners 2nd Earl Rutland 1526-1563 (9) and Margaret Neville -1559 were married (he was her half fourth cousin), and.
John Vere 16th Earl Oxford 1516-1562 (20) and Dorothy Neville -1546 were married.

Around 1543 Unknown Painter. Portrait of Charles Brandon 1st Duke Suffolk 1484-1545 (59).

On 28 Apr 1539 George Talbot 6th Earl Shrewsbury 6th Earl Waterford 1528-1590 (11) and [his sister] Gertrude Manners Countess Shrewsbury Countess Waterford 1525-1567 (14) were married (he was her fourth cousin).

On 20 Sep 1543 [his father] Thomas Manners 1st Earl Rutland 1492-1543 (51) died. He was buried in the Chancel of St Mary the Virgin Church Bottesford. Garter Robes with his Leg Garter.
His son [his brother] Henry Manners 2nd Earl Rutland 1526-1563 (16) succeeded 2nd Earl Rutland 3C 1525, 13th Baron Ros Helmsley.

In 1551 [his mother] Eleanor Paston Countess Rutland 1495-1551 (56) died. She was buried at St Mary the Virgin Church Bottesford.

After 1559 [his brother] Henry Manners 2nd Earl Rutland 1526-1563 and Bridget Hussey Countess Bedford 1526-1601 were married (he was her fourth cousin).

On 17 Sep 1563 [his brother] Henry Manners 2nd Earl Rutland 1526-1563 (36) died. His son [his nephew] Edward Manners 3rd Earl Rutland 1549-1587 (14) succeeded 3rd Earl Rutland 3C 1525, 14th Baron Ros Helmsley.
On 13 Oct 1559 Margaret Neville -1559 died. She was buried at St Mary the Virgin Church Bottesford.
Monument an unusual Table Tomb with their effigies beneath surmounted by effigies of their children, and the Arms of Manners and Neville. He wearing a Leg Garter.
His arms showing quarterly: 1&4: . Paternal Great Great Grandfather Thomas Ros 9th Baron Ros Helmsley 1427-1464 2nd: Top Row: , , Trusbutt [or Belvoir], Bottom Row: Todeni [Albini ancient], , . Possibly a reference to Maudit. 3rd Quarterly: 1 , 2 . Paternal Great Grandmother Philippa Tiptoft Baroness Ros Helmsley 1423-1487, 3 Unknown 4 .

On 31 Aug 1565 George Vernon "King of the Peak" 1508-1565 (57) died. He was buried at All Saint's Church Bakewell. By his will of 18 Aug 1565 he bequeathed six Derbyshire manors and two in Staffordshire to his wife for life. His executors were to take the profits of his manor of Kibblestone, in Staffordshire, and two Cheshire manors for 16 years after his decease to pay his debts, funeral expenses and the fulfilment of his will, which included among numerous bequests the provision of one gold chain worth £20 to his godson, Gilbert Talbot (12), the future 6th Earl of Shrewsbury, ‘as a remembrance of my good will towards him’. His wife, his son-in-law John Manners (38), his brother-in-law Nicholas Longford (33) and his ‘loving neighbours and faithful friends Thomas Sutton and Richard Wennesley were each to receive £20 for their services as executors, while his ‘right worshipful friends’ (Sir) John Zouche II and Francis Leke (55) were each to have a horse.
Monument with both his wives Margaret Tailboys 1528-1565 and Maud aka Magdelan Longford -1596 each wearing a French Hood. Two Wives.

Before 16 Jan 1567 [his sister] Gertrude Manners Countess Shrewsbury Countess Waterford 1525-1567 died. On 16 Jan 1567 she was buried in Sheffield Cathedral.

Before 1572 [his nephew] John Manners 4th Earl Rutland 1559-1588 and Elizabeth Charlton Countess Rutland were married.

Before 22 Mar 1572 John Manners 1527-1611 and [his wife] Dorothy Vernon 1531-1584 were married.

On 22 Mar 1572 [his son] George Manners 1572-1623 was born to John Manners 1527-1611 (45) and [his wife] Dorothy Vernon 1531-1584 (41) at Haddon Hall.

On 06 Jun 1573 [his nephew] Edward Manners 3rd Earl Rutland 1549-1587 (23) and Isabel Holcroft Countess Rutland were married. Isabel Holcroft Countess Rutland by marriage Countess Rutland 3C 1525, Baron Ros Helmsley.

In 1583 [his nephew] Edward Talbot 8th Earl Shrewsbury 8th Earl Waterford 1561-1617 (21) and Joane Ogle Countess Shrewsbury Countess Waterford 1566-1626 (17) were married. Joane Ogle Countess Shrewsbury Countess Waterford 1566-1626 (17) by marriage Countess Shrewsbury 2C 1442 Countess Waterford.

On 24 Jun 1584 [his wife] Dorothy Vernon 1531-1584 (53) died. On 04 Jun 1611 John Manners 1527-1611 (84) died at Haddon Hall. Both were buried at All Saint's Church Bakewell. Elizabethan Kneeling facing each other. Complex armorial of his arms impaled with her arms.
Arms of John Manners 1527-1611 (57) impaled with those of [his wife] Dorothy Vernon 1531-1584 (53).
On the left his arms from top left to bottom right:.
Top Row: 1  2 His great-grandmother Eleanor Ros. Second Row: 5  6  7  8 . Third Row: 11 .
On the right arms of [his wife] Dorothy Vernon 1531-1584 (53). Top Row: 1 . Her arms. Second Row: 5 . Third Row: 9 . Fourth Row: 10 .

On 14 Apr 1587 [his nephew] Edward Manners 3rd Earl Rutland 1549-1587 (37) died. His daughter Elizabeth Manners 15th Baroness Ros Helmsley 1575-1591 (12) succeeded 15th Baron Ros Helmsley. [his nephew] John Manners 4th Earl Rutland 1559-1588 (28) by marriage 4th Earl Rutland 3C 1525. Elizabeth Charlton Countess Rutland by marriage Countess Rutland 3C 1525.

On 24 Feb 1588 [his nephew] John Manners 4th Earl Rutland 1559-1588 (29) died. His son Roger Manners 5th Earl Rutland 1576-1612 (11) succeeded 5th Earl Rutland 3C 1525. Elizabethan Period. Monument sculpted by Gerard Johnson The Elder Sculptor -1611 in the Chancel of St Mary the Virgin Church Bottesford. The service attended by his son and heir Roger Manners 5th Earl Rutland 1576-1612 (11).

[his nephew] Gilbert Talbot 7th Earl Shrewsbury 7th Earl Waterford 1552-1616 and Mary Cavendish Countess Shrewsbury Countess Waterford 1556-1632 were married. Mary Cavendish Countess Shrewsbury Countess Waterford 1556-1632 by marriage Countess Shrewsbury 2C 1442 Countess Waterford.

[his daughter] Grace Manners -1634 was born to John Manners 1527-1611 and [his former wife] Dorothy Vernon 1531-1584.

Family Trees

Paternal Family Tree: Manners

Descendants Family Trees:

Ralph Neville 1st Earl Westmoreland 1364 1425

Cecily "Rose of Raby" Neville Duchess York 1415 1495

Joan Beaufort Countess Westmoreland 1379 1440

Royal Descent

Kings Wessex: Great x 20 Grand Son of Æthelwulf King Wessex -858

Kings Gwynedd: Great x 13 Grand Son of Owain "Great" King Gwynedd 1100-1170

Kings Seisyllwg: Great x 18 Grand Son of Hywel "Dda aka Good" King Seisyllwg King Deheubarth 880-950

Kings Powys: Great x 13 Grand Son of Maredudd ap Bleddyn King Powys 1047-1132

Kings England: Great x 5 Grand Son of King Edward III England

Kings Scotland: Great x 11 Grand Son of William "Lion" I King Scotland 1143-1214

Kings Franks: Great x 11 Grand Son of Louis VII King Franks 1120-1180

Kings France: Great x 7 Grand Son of Philip "Fair" IV King France 1268-1314

Ancestry

Father: Thomas Manners 1st Earl Rutland 1492-1543 4 x great grandson of King Edward III England

GrandFather: George Manners 11th Baron Ros Helmsley 1470-1513 6 x great grandson of Edward "Longshanks" I King England 1239-1307

Great GrandFather: Robert Manners 1447-1495

Great x 2 GrandFather: Robert Manners 1408-1462

Great GrandMother: Eleanor Ros 5 x great granddaughter of Edward "Longshanks" I King England 1239-1307

Great x 2 GrandFather: Thomas Ros 9th Baron Ros Helmsley 1427-1464 5 x great grandson of Henry III King England 1207-1272

Great x 3 GrandFather: Thomas Ros 8th Baron Ros Helmsley 1407-1430 4 x great grandson of Henry III King England 1207-1272

Great x 3 GrandMother: Eleanor Beauchamp Duchess Somerset 1408-1468 4 x great granddaughter of Edward "Longshanks" I King England 1239-1307

Great x 2 GrandMother: Philippa Tiptoft Baroness Ros Helmsley 1423-1487 4 x great granddaughter of Edward "Longshanks" I King England 1239-1307

Great x 3 GrandFather: John Tiptoft 1st Baron Tiptoft -1443

Great x 3 GrandMother: Joyce Charleton Baroness Tiptoft 1404-1446 3 x great granddaughter of Edward "Longshanks" I King England 1239-1307

GrandMother: Anne St Leger Baroness Ros Helmsley 1476-1526 3 x great granddaughter of King Edward III England

Great GrandFather: Thomas St Leger 1440-1483 6 x great grandson of Edward "Longshanks" I King England 1239-1307

Great x 2 GrandFather: John St Leger 1395-1441 5 x great grandson of Edward "Longshanks" I King England 1239-1307

Great x 3 GrandFather: Arnold St Leger 1374-1395 4 x great grandson of Edward "Longshanks" I King England 1239-1307

Great x 2 GrandMother: Margery Donet

Great x 3 GrandFather: James Donet -1409

Great GrandMother: Anne York Duchess Exeter 1439-1476 2 x great granddaughter of King Edward III England

Great x 2 GrandFather: Richard 3rd Duke York 1411-1460 great grandson of King Edward III England

Great x 3 GrandFather: Richard York 1st Earl Cambridge 1385-1415 grandson of King Edward III England

Great x 3 GrandMother: Anne Mortimer 1390-1411 2 x great granddaughter of King Edward III England

Great x 2 GrandMother: Cecily "Rose of Raby" Neville Duchess York 1415-1495 great granddaughter of King Edward III England

Great x 3 GrandFather: Ralph Neville 1st Earl Westmoreland 1364-1425 5 x great grandson of Henry "Curtmantle" II King England 1133-1189

Great x 3 GrandMother: Joan Beaufort Countess Westmoreland 1379-1440 granddaughter of King Edward III England

Mother: Eleanor Paston Countess Rutland 1495-1551

GrandFather: William Paston 1479-1554

Great GrandFather: John Paston 1444-1504

Great x 2 GrandFather: John Paston 1421-1466

Great x 3 GrandFather: William Paston 1378-1444

Great x 3 GrandMother: Agnes Barry -1479

Great x 2 GrandMother: Margaret Mautby

Great x 3 GrandFather: John Mautby

Great GrandMother: Margery Brewes -1495

Great x 2 GrandFather: Thomas Brewes -1482

GrandMother: Bridget Heydon 1485-1554

Great GrandFather: Henry Heydon 1440-1504

Great GrandMother: Anne Boleyn 1440-1509

Great x 2 GrandFather: Geoffrey Boleyn Lord Mayor London 1406-1463

Great x 3 GrandFather: Geoffrey Boleyn 1380-1440

Great x 3 GrandMother: alice bracton 1385-1414

Great x 2 GrandMother: Ann Hoo 1425-1484

Great x 3 GrandFather: Thomas Hoo 1st Baron Hoo and Hastings 1396-1455

Great x 3 GrandMother: Elizabeth Wychingham