Biography of John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle 1318-1355

Paternal Family Tree: Lisle

1340 Battle of Sluys

1344 Creation of the Order of the Garter

1346 Commencement of the Crécy Campaign

1346 Battle of Crécy

1347 Tournament at Lichfield

1347 Capture of Calais

On 09 Jul 1301 [his father] Robert Lisle 1st Baron Lisle (age 13) and [his mother] Margaret Beauchamp Baroness Lisle (age 6) were married. She a great x 4 granddaughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England.

In 1311 [his father] Robert Lisle 1st Baron Lisle (age 22) was created 1st Baron Lisle of Rougemont. [his mother] Margaret Beauchamp Baroness Lisle (age 16) by marriage Baroness Lisle of Rougemont.

Around 03 May 1318 John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle was born to Robert Lisle 1st Baron Lisle (age 30) and Margaret Beauchamp Baroness Lisle (age 23).

Before 06 May 1336 John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle (age 18) and Maud Grey Baroness Lisle (age 18) were married. He a great x 5 grandson of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England.

On 06 May 1336 [his son] Robert Lisle 3rd Baron Lisle was born to John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle (age 18) and [his wife] Maud Grey Baroness Lisle (age 18).

After 06 May 1336 [his son] Robert Lisle 3rd Baron Lisle and [his daughter-in-law] Agnes Unknown Baroness Lisle were married. She by marriage Baroness Lisle of Rougemont.

Froissart Book 1 Chapter 41. 1339. When the Friday came in the morning, both hosts apparelled themselves ready, and every lord heard mass among their own companies and divers were shriven.

First we will speak of the order of the Englishmen, who drew them forward into the field and made three battles afoot, and did put all their horses and baggages into a little wood behind them, and fortified it. The first battle led1 the duke of Gueldres, the marquis of Meissen, the marquis of Brandebourg, sir John of Hainault, the earl of Mons, the earl of Salm, the lord of Fauquemont, sir William of Duvenvoorde, sir Arnold of Baquehem and the Almains; and among them was twenty-two banners and sixty pennons in the whole, and eight thousand men. The second battle had the duke of Brabant and the lords and knights of his country - first the lord of Cuyk, the lord Berg, the lord of Breda, the lord of Rotselaer, the lord of Vorsselaer, the lord of Borgneval, the lord of Schoonvorst, the lord of Witham, the lord of Aerschot, the lord of Gaesbeck, the lord of Duffel, sir Thierry of Walcourt, sir Rasse of Gres, sir John of Kesterbeke, sir John Pyliser, sir Giles of Coterebbe, sir Walter of Huldeberg, the three brethren of Harlebeke, sir Henry of Flanders, and divers other barons and knights of Flanders, who were all under the duke of Brabant's banner, as the lord of Halewyn, the lord of Gruthuse, sir Hector Vilain, sir John of Rhodes, sir Wulfart of Ghistelles, sir William of Straten, sir Gossuin de la Moere, and many other: the duke of Brabant had a twenty-four banners and eighty pennons, and in all a seven thousand men. The third battle and the greatest had the king of England and with him his cousin the earl of Derby (age 29), the bishop of Lincoln (age 47), the bishop of Durham, the earl of Salisbury (age 38), the earl of Northampton (age 29), and of Gloucester (age 48), the earl of Suffolk (age 40), sir Robert d'Artois (age 52), as then called earl of Richmond5, the lord Raynold Cobham (age 44), the lord Percy, the lord Ros (age 54), the lord Mowbray (age 28), sir Lewis and sir John Beauchamp, the lord Delaware (age 62), the lord of Langton, the lord Basset, the lord Fitzwalter, sir Walter Manny (age 29), sir Hugh Hastings (age 29), sir John Lisle (age 20), and divers other that I cannot name: among other was sir John Chandos (age 19), of whom much honour is spoken in this book2. The king had with him twenty-eight banners and ninety pennons, and in his battle a six thousand men of arms and six thousand archers; and he had set another battle as in a wing, whereof the earl of Warwick (age 25), the earl of Pembroke (age 19), the lord Berkeley (age 43), the lord Multon and divers other were as chief, and they were on horseback3. Thus when every lord was under his banner, as it was commanded by the marshals, the king of England mounted on a palfrey, accompanied all only with sir Robert d'Artois, sir Raynold Cobham and sir Walter of Manny, and rode along before all his battles, and right sweetly desired all his lords and other that they would that day aid to defend his honour. And they all promised him so to do. Then he returned to his own battle and set everything in good order and commanded that none should go before the marshals' banners.

Now let us speak of the lords of France, what they did. They were eleven score banners, four kings, six dukes, twenty-six earls, and more than four thousand knights, and of the commons of France more than sixty thousand. The kings that were there with king Philip of Valois was the king of Bohemia, the king of Navarre, and king David of Scotland: the duke of Normandy, the duke of Bretayne, the duke of Bourbon, the duke of Lorraine and the duke of Athens: 2 of earls, the earl of Alencon (age 42) brother to the king, the earl of Flanders, the earl of Hainault, the earl of Blois, the earl of Bar, the earl of Forez, the earl of Foix, the earl of Armagnac, the earl Dolphin of Auvergne, the earl of Joinville, the earl of Etampes, the earl of Vendome, the earl of Harcourt, the earl of Saint-Pol, the earl of Guines, the earl of Boulogne, the earl of Roucy, the earl of Dammartin, the earl of Valentinois, the earl of Auxerre, the earl of Sancerre, the earl of Geneva, the earl of Dreux; and of Gascoyne and of Languedoc so many earls and viscounts, that it were long to rehearse. It was a great beauty to behold the banners and standards waving in the wind, and horses barded, and knights and squires richly armed. The Frenchmen ordained three great battles, in each of them fifteen thousand men of arms and twenty thousand men afoot.

Note 1. Perhaps a misprint for 'had.' The original is 'eut.'

Note 2. In the later revision the writer says: 'I, Froissart, writer of these chronicles, more than once heard the gentle knight sir John Chandos say that he was made knight by the hand of the king Edward of England on this Friday that the assembly was at Buironfosse; and since that he was more valiant than any other who took arms on the side of the English, I make mention of this here.'

Note 3. The original says: ' So these remained on horseback to support those battles which should waver, and were as a rear-guard.'

Note 4. The name of the duke of Burgundy is omitted.

Note 5. TT. Robert III Artois wasn't created Earl Richmond until 1341?

In 1339 [his mother] Margaret Beauchamp Baroness Lisle (age 44) died at Woodburn.

In 1339 [his son] John Lisle was born to John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle (age 20) and [his wife] Maud Grey Baroness Lisle (age 21).

In 1340 [his daughter] Elizabeth Lisle Baroness Ferrers Harewood was born to John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle (age 21) and [his wife] Maud Grey Baroness Lisle (age 22) at Kingston Lisle, Sparsholt.

Battle of Sluys

On 24 Jun 1340 King Edward III of England (age 27) attacked the French fleet at anchor during the Battle of Sluys capturing more than 200 ships, killing around 18000 French. The English force included John Beauchamp 1st Baron Beauchamp Warwick (age 24), William Bohun 1st Earl of Northampton (age 30), Henry Scrope 1st Baron Scrope of Masham (age 27), William Latimer 4th Baron Latimer of Corby (age 10), John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle (age 22), Ralph Stafford 1st Earl Stafford (age 38), Henry of Grosmont 1st Duke Lancaster (age 30), Walter Manny 1st Baron Manny (age 30), Hugh Despencer 1st Baron Despencer (age 32) and Richard Pembridge (age 20).

Thomas Monthermer 2nd Baron Monthermer (age 38) died from wounds. His daughter Margaret Monthermer Baroness Montagu 3rd Baroness Monthermer succeeded 3rd Baroness Monthermer.

On 04 Jan 1344 [his father] Robert Lisle 1st Baron Lisle (age 55) died. He was buried at Greyfriars Church Farringdon Within [Map]. His son John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle (age 25) succeeded 2nd Baron Lisle of Rougemont. [his wife] Maud Grey Baroness Lisle (age 26) by marriage Baroness Lisle of Rougemont.

Creation of the Order of the Garter

Commencement of the Crécy Campaign

On 12 Jul 1346 King Edward III of England (age 33) landed at La Hogue [Map] with army of around 10,000 men including John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle (age 28).

On 26 Aug 1346 John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle (age 28) was appointed Knight Banneret.

Battle of Crécy

On 26 Aug 1346 the army of King Edward III of England (age 33) defeated the French army at the Battle of Crécy. The English army was commanded by King Edward III of England, his son Edward "Black Prince" (age 16), Thomas Beauchamp 11th Earl Warwick (age 33), William Bohun 1st Earl of Northampton (age 36) and John Beauchamp 1st Baron Beauchamp Warwick (age 30).

The English army was included: Bishop Thomas of Hatfield (age 36), Hugh Despencer 1st Baron Despencer (age 38), Bernard Brocas (age 16), Thomas Felton (age 16), James Audley (age 28), Robert Bourchier 1st Baron Bourchier, Bartholomew "The Elder" Burghesh 1st Baron Burghesh (age 59), Bartholomew "The Younger" Burghesh 2nd Baron Burghesh (age 18), Reginald Cobham 1st Baron Cobham (age 51), John Darcy 1st Baron Darcy of Knayth (age 66), Robert Ferrers 3rd Baron Ferrers of Chartley (age 37), Richard Scrope 1st Baron Scrope of Bolton (age 19), William Scrope (age 21), Stephen Scrope (age 21), William Latimer 4th Baron Latimer of Corby (age 16), John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle (age 28), Gerard Lisle 1st Baron Lisle (age 42), Nicholas Longford (age 61), Edward Montagu 1st Baron Montagu, Walter Paveley 4th Baron Burghesh (age 27), Michael Poynings 1st Baron Poynings (age 28), Robert Ufford 1st Earl Suffolk (age 48), John de Vere 7th Earl of Oxford (age 34), Thomas West (age 34), John Willoughby 2nd Baron Willoughby (age 43), John Wingfield (age 26), Henry Percy 11th and 3rd Baron Percy (age 25), Hugh Courtenay 10th Earl Devon (age 43) (possibly), Walter "Elder" Devereux (age 37), John Devereux (age 44), Enion Sais Brecon, John Chandos (age 26), Richard Pembridge (age 26) and John Sully (age 63).

The French army suffered significant casualties. King Philip "Fortunate" VI of France (age 52) was wounded. William de Coucy (age 60) and his son Enguerrand 6th Lord de Coucy (age 33) and were killed.

Charles Valois Count Alençon (age 49) was killed. His son Charles Valois Archbishop of Lyons (age 9) succeeded Count Alençon.

Louis Chatillon II Count Blois I Count Chatillon was killed. His son Louis Chatillon III Count Blois Count Soissons succeeded III Count Blois.

Louis Dampierre II Count Nevers I Count Flanders (age 42) was killed. His son Louis Dampierre III Count Nevers II Count Flanders (age 15) succeeded III Count Nevers, II Count Flanders.

King John I of Bohemia (age 50) was killed. His son Charles IV King Bohemia Holy Roman Emperor Luxemburg (age 30) succeeded IV King Bohemia.

Rudolph "Valiant" Metz I Duke Lorraine (age 26) was killed. His son John Metz I Duke Lorraine succeeded I Duke Lorraine.

Jean IV de Harcourt (age 39) was killed.

Tournament at Lichfield

On 09 Apr 1347 Edward "Black Prince" (age 16) attended a Tournament at Lichfield. John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle (age 28), Hugh Courtenay 10th Earl Devon (age 43) (or possibly his son also Hugh Courtenay (age 20) ) and Robert Ferrers 3rd Baron Ferrers of Chartley (age 38) took part in the Tournament.

Capture of Calais

On 03 Aug 1347 the English captured Calais [Map] providing England with a French port for the next two hundred years. Thomas Beauchamp 11th Earl Warwick (age 34) commanded, John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle (age 29), Richard Vache and Henry of Grosmont 1st Duke Lancaster (age 37) fought during the year long siege.

On 14 Oct 1355 John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle (age 37) died. His son [his son] Robert Lisle 3rd Baron Lisle (age 19) succeeded 3rd Baron Lisle of Rougemont.

After 03 Jan 1377 [his former wife] Maud Grey Baroness Lisle (age 59) died.

[his daughter] Alice Lisle was born to John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle and Maud Grey Baroness Lisle.

[his son] William Lisle 4th Baron Lisle was born to John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle and Maud Grey Baroness Lisle.

Royal Ancestors of John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle 1318-1355

Kings Wessex: Great x 13 Grand Son of King Alfred "The Great" of Wessex

Kings Gwynedd: Great x 10 Grand Son of Maredudd ab Owain King Deheubarth King Powys King Gwynedd

Kings Seisyllwg: Great x 12 Grand Son of Hywel "Dda aka Good" King Seisyllwg King Deheubarth

Kings Powys: Great x 10 Grand Son of Maredudd ab Owain King Deheubarth King Powys King Gwynedd

Kings England: Great x 5 Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Kings Franks: Great x 15 Grand Son of Louis "Pious" King Aquitaine I King Franks

Kings France: Great x 8 Grand Son of Robert "Pious" II King France

Royal Descendants of John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle 1318-1355

Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom

Queen Consort Camilla Shand

Diana Spencer Princess Wales

Ancestors of John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle 1318-1355

Great x 2 Grandfather: Robert Lisle

Great x 1 Grandfather: Robert Lisle

Great x 3 Grandfather: Henry Fitzgerald

Great x 2 Grandmother: Alice Fitzgerald

Great x 4 Grandfather: Robert Ferrers

Great x 3 Grandmother: Ermentrude Ferrers

Great x 4 Grandmother: Joan Boclande

GrandFather: Warin Lisle

Great x 2 Grandfather: Robert Muscgros

Great x 1 Grandmother: Mabel Muscgros

Father: Robert Lisle 1st Baron Lisle

Great x 4 Grandfather: Thurstan Montfort

Great x 3 Grandfather: Henry Montfort

Great x 2 Grandfather: Thurstan Montfort

Great x 1 Grandfather: Peter Montfort

Great x 4 Grandfather: Walter Cantilupe

Great x 3 Grandfather: William Cantilupe Baron

Great x 2 Grandmother: Mabel Cantilupe

GrandMother: Alice Montfort Baroness Fitzwalter

Great x 4 Grandfather: Liulf Audley

Great x 3 Grandfather: Adam Audley

Great x 4 Grandmother: Mabella Stanley

Great x 2 Grandfather: Henry Audley

Great x 3 Grandmother: Emma Fitzorm

Great x 1 Grandmother: Alice Audley

Great x 3 Grandfather: Ralph Mainwaring

Great x 2 Grandmother: Bertrade Mainwaring

John Lisle 2nd Baron Lisle 5 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandfather: William Beauchamp 1st Baron Beauchamp

Great x 3 Grandfather: William Beauchamp 2nd Baron Beauchamp

Great x 4 Grandmother: Bertha de Braose Baroness Beauchamp

Great x 2 Grandfather: Walter Beauchamp

Great x 3 Grandmother: Jeanne de Saint Valéry Saint Valéry Baroness Beauchamp

Great x 1 Grandfather: William Beauchamp

Great x 4 Grandfather: Hugh Mortimer

Great x 3 Grandfather: Roger Mortimer

Great x 4 Grandmother: Matilda Gernon

Great x 2 Grandmother: Joan Mortimer

Great x 4 Grandfather: Walchelin Ferrers

Great x 3 Grandmother: Isabel Ferrers

GrandFather: Walter Beauchamp

Great x 2 Grandfather: William Maudit

Great x 1 Grandmother: Isabel Maudit

Great x 4 Grandfather: Roger Beaumont 2nd Earl Warwick

Great x 3 Grandfather: Waleran Beaumont 4th Earl Warwick

Great x 4 Grandmother: Gundred Warenne Countess Warwick

Great x 2 Grandmother: Alice Beaumont

Great x 3 Grandmother: Alice Harcourt Countess Warwick

Mother: Margaret Beauchamp Baroness Lisle 4 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Roger Tosny

Great x 3 Grandfather: Ralph Tosny

Great x 4 Grandmother: Ida aka Gertrude Hainault

Great x 2 Grandfather: Roger Tosny IV Lord Flamstead

Great x 4 Grandfather: Robert Beaumont 2nd Earl of Leicester

Great x 3 Grandmother: Margaret Beaumont

Great x 4 Grandmother: Amice Gael Countess Leicester

Great x 1 Grandfather: Ralph Tosny VI Lord Flamstead 2 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 3 Grandfather: Richard Beaumont Sarthe I Viscount Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Constance Fitzroy Viscountess Beaumont Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 2 Grandmother: Constance Beaumont Sarthe Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 3 Grandmother: Lucie Aigle Viscountess

GrandMother: Alice Tosny 3 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Gilbert de Lacy

Great x 3 Grandfather: Hugh Lacy

Great x 2 Grandfather: Walter Lacy Lord Meath

Great x 4 Grandfather: Baderon Monmouth Lord Monmouth

Great x 3 Grandmother: Rohese Monmouth Baroness Lacy

Great x 4 Grandmother: Rohese de Clare

Great x 1 Grandmother: Petronilla Lacy

Great x 4 Grandfather: William de Braose 3rd Baron Bramber

Great x 3 Grandfather: William de Braose 4th Baron Bramber

Great x 4 Grandmother: Bertha Gloucester Baroness Bramber

Great x 2 Grandmother: Margaret de Braose

Great x 4 Grandfather: Bernard St Valery

Great x 3 Grandmother: Maud "Lady of Hay" St Valery Baroness Bramber

Great x 4 Grandmother: Matilda Unknown