Biography of John Braye 2nd Baron Braye -1557

Maternal Family Tree: Jane Norbury 1464-1564

1529 Henry VIII Creates New Peerages

1557 Battle of St Quentin

John Braye 2nd Baron Braye was born to Edmund Braye 1st Baron Braye and Jane Halwell Baroness Bray.

On 21 Feb 1497 [his father] Edmund Braye 1st Baron Braye (age 13) and [his mother] Jane Halwell Baroness Bray were married. She by marriage Baroness Braye.

Henry VIII Creates New Peerages

On 01 Dec 1529 ...

Andrew Windsor 1st Baron Windsor (age 62) was created 1st Baron Windsor of Stanwell in Buckinghamshire. Elizabeth Blount Baroness Windsor (age 60) by marriage Baroness Windsor of Stanwell in Buckinghamshire.

John Hussey 1st Baron Hussey of Sleaford (age 64) was created 1st Baron Hussey of Sleaford. Anne Grey Baroness Hussey Sleaford by marriage Baroness Hussey of Sleaford.

On 02 Dec 1529 ...

Thomas Wentworth 1st Baron Wentworth (age 28) was created 1st Baron Wentworth. Margaret Fortescue Baroness Wentworth (age 27) by marriage Baroness Wentworth.

Thomas Burgh 7th Baron Cobham 5th Baron Strabolgi 1st Baron Burgh (age 41) was created 1st Baron Burgh. Agnes Tyrwhitt Baroness Cobham, Strabolgi and Burgh (age 48) by marriage Baroness Burgh. This is regarded as a new creation rather than a continuation of the previous creation Baron Burgh since Thomas's father was never summoned to Parliament due to his insanity. Some sources refer to Thomas as the 3rd Baron Burgh.

On 04 Dec 1529 [his father] Edmund Braye 1st Baron Braye (age 45) was created 1st Baron Braye.

On 18 Oct 1539 [his father] Edmund Braye 1st Baron Braye (age 55) died. His son John Braye 2nd Baron Braye succeeded 2nd Baron Braye. As a minor he was placed under the wardship of [his future father-in-law] Francis Talbot 5th Earl of Shrewsbury (age 39). He would later marry Talbot's daughter [his future wife] Anne Talbot Baroness Braye and Wharton (age 15).

Diary of Edward VI. 16 Apr 1550. The thre hostiages aforsaid cam to London, being met at Detford with the lord Graye of Wilton (age 41), lord Bray, with divers other gentihnen to the nomber of twenty, and serving men an hundred, and so brought into the cite, and lodged there, and kept houses every man by themself.

Henry Machyn's Diary. 02 Nov 1551. The ij day of November cam to Londun from Hamton courtte [Map] and landyd at Benard castyll [Map] the old Qwyne of Schottes (age 35), and cam rydyng to the bysshope('s) palles at Powlles with many lordes, the duke of Suffoke (age 34), my lord marqwes of Northamptun (age 39), my lord of Warwyke (age 24), the lord Welebe (age 34), my lord Haward (age 41), my lord Rosselle (age 66), lord Bray, and dyvers mo lords and knyghtes and gentyllmen, and then cam the Qwyne of Schottes and alle owre lades and her gentyll women and owre gentyll women to the nomber of a C. and ther was sent her mony grett gyftes by the mayre and aldermen, as beyffes, mottuns, velles, swines, bred, wylld ffulle, wyne, bere, spysys, and alle thyngs, and qwaylles, sturgeon, wod and colles, and samons, by dyver men.

Note. Visit of the old queen of Scots. The queen dowager of Scotland (Mary of Guise) embarked at Edinburgh to visit her daughter in France, Sept. 7, 1550. On her return she landed at Portsmouth on the 2d Nov. 1551. (Lettres de Marie Stuart, edited by the Prince Alexandre Labanoff, 8vo. 1844, vol. i. 5.) The privy council addressed, "25 Sept. 1551. A Letter to the lord chauncelor requiring him to passe under the greate seal a saulf-conduct graunted by the kinges majestie to the dowager of Scotlande, and to retayne with him for a record the originall thereof sent him signed by his highnes." The saulf-conduct itself is printed in Rymer's Collection, xv. 290: it bears an earlier date, viz. 17 Sept. Some subsequent minutes of the Privy Council relating to preparations for this visit are given by Strype. There are many particulars of it in king Edward's Diary, and a narrative of the queen's reception is in MS. Harl. 290, art. 2.

Note. Funeral of sir Michael Lyster. The name of the lord chief justice of the king's bench was sir Richard Lyster, but that of his eldest son, here recorded, was sir Michael. See the memoir on the monument of sir Richard Lyster at St. Michael's church, Southampton, by Sir F. Madden, in the Winchester volume of the Archæological Institute. There is a portrait of a lady Lyster among the Holbein Heads: it may be doubtful to which lady of the name it belongs (see the pedigree given by Sir F. Madden); but Mr. Lodge, in his accompanying memoir, supposed it to be that of lady Mary, daughter of the earl of Southampton, wife of sir Richard, grandson of the chief justice. (See her funeral afterwards, p. 273.)

Henry Machyn's Diary. 07 Dec 1551. The vij day of Desember at Hyd parke [Map] a gret muster of men of armes: the furst the kynges trumpeters; [then] my lord Bray, in gylt harnes, captayn of the pe[nsioners, and a] gret baner of the kynges armes; and then cam the pensyoners in caumplet harnes, and gret hars, in [white and] blake, v and v a ranke, and after them cam the[ir servants, in number] a C. with grett harse, and harnes in whyt and blake, [and speres]. The secound my lord Tresorer, a C. men of arms, broderyd cott, red and whyt, and ther spers, ys [standard] a faucon of gold. The iij was [the] duke of Northumberland (age 47), with [C. men] of armes in welvet in-brodery, trumpeters, [his standard] a lyon crounyd gold. The iiij my lord marqws Northamtun (age 39) a C. men of armes, in yelow and [black], spers and pensels and trumpeters. The yerlle of Bedford (age 66) a C. men of armes and [in] red and whyt, ys standard a gott whyt, and a trumpeter, and pensels and spers, cotes red and whyt and blake. The yerle of Rottland (age 25) a C. men of armes in yelow and bluw; ys standard a pekoke, and pensels. The yerle of Huntyntun (age 37) men of armes 1. in bluw, and speres, and standard, and pensels. The yerle of Penbroke (age 50) C. men of armes. My lord Cobam (age 54) 1. men of armes, in blak and whyt. My lord Chamburlayne l. men of armes, cote(s) of whyt [and] red, and speres cotes in-brodere, and pensels. M. tresorer Cheyney a C. men of armes, all blake, and speres and pensells, by-syd costerells and geton.... and armes a-pone the blake at ... pryche the Skott of saynt Peters in Cornhyll ... the morow dyd pryche doythur Bartelett a godly ... at the berehyng was the masters and compeny of the ...

Note. Muster in Hyde Park. This is described nearly in the same terms in the King's diary. Burnet has misprinted the date Dec. 4 instead of 7.

Note. The Scot of St. Peter's in Cornhill. This preacher has been before mentioned in p. 6 as "the Skott the curett" of St. Peter's. Whether he was the same as Richardson, whose popularity as a preacher is mentioned in p. 91, has not been ascertained.

Henry Machyn's Diary. 16 May 1552. The furst the kynges pensyonars, the lord Bray ther captayn, and the kyng's grett baner [of arms] borne of-fore of damaske, blue and red, and the trumpeters blohyng, and the pensyonars in goodly a[rray, and] in harnes from tope to the to, and goodly basses of cotes, and ther men in lyke colers of cloth.

Battle of St Quentin

Henry Machyn's Diary. 18 Nov 1557. [The xviij day of November died the lord Bray, within the Black-friars, near Ludgate]; the wyche he gatt ys deth [at St. Quintin's.]

On 19 Nov 1557 John Braye 2nd Baron Braye died from wounds received at the Battle of St Quentin without issue. He was buried at Chelsea Old Church. Baron Braye abeyant between his six sisters inherited. The abeyance would be terminated in 1839 in favour of Sarah Otway-Cave 3rd Baroness Braye a descendant of his sister [his sister] Elizabeth Braye (age 56).

Before 19 Nov 1557 John Braye 2nd Baron Braye and Anne Talbot Baroness Braye and Wharton (age 33) were married. She by marriage Baroness Braye. She being the daughter of Francis Talbot 5th Earl of Shrewsbury (age 57) who ward John had been. She the daughter of Francis Talbot 5th Earl of Shrewsbury (age 57) and Mary Dacre. She a great x 5 granddaughter of King Edward III of England.

Henry Machyn's Diary. 23 Nov 1557. The xxiij day of November was cared from Blake-freres to Temes syd, and ther wher rede to grett barges covered with blake and armes hangyng for my lord Bray, and so by water to Chelsey, to be bereyd by ys father, with iiij haroldes of armes, and a standard and a baner of armes, and ij baners of emages borne by ij haroldes of armes in ther cott armurs, and so mony nobull men morners in blake, and xvj porre men had new gownes, and a xvj grett torchys, ij whytt branchys, and iiij grett tapurs, and a cott armur, elmett, target, sword, and mantylles, and a viij dosen of skochyons; and after messe, and ther wher mony prestes and clarkes, and the dener at ys plase at Blake-frers, and so they cam bake from Cheshey to dener.

Note. P. 158. Funeral of lord Bray. "John lord Bray dyed in the late Black fryers in London on thursday the xixth of November 1557 and was beryed at Chelsey in the middest of the high chauncell with his father and grand-father the 23. of November." MS. Harl. 874, f. 79.—The full narrative of his funeral, which is recorded in the College of Arms, I. 15, f. 279, has been printed by Lysons in his Environs of London, and by Faulkner in his History of Chelsea.

On 18 Nov 1561 Thomas Wharton 1st Baron Wharton (age 66) and [his former wife] Anne Talbot Baroness Braye and Wharton (age 37) were married. She by marriage Baroness Wharton. The difference in their ages was 29 years. She the daughter of Francis Talbot 5th Earl of Shrewsbury and Mary Dacre. She a great x 5 granddaughter of King Edward III of England.

On 03 Feb 1585 [his former wife] Anne Talbot Baroness Braye and Wharton (age 61) died.

Royal Ancestors of John Braye 2nd Baron Braye -1557

Kings Wessex: Great x 17 Grand Son of King Edmund "Ironside" I of England

Kings Gwynedd: Great x 11 Grand Son of Owain "Great" King Gwynedd

Kings Seisyllwg: Great x 17 Grand Son of Hywel "Dda aka Good" King Seisyllwg King Deheubarth

Kings Powys: Great x 12 Grand Son of Maredudd ap Bleddyn King Powys

Kings England: Great x 12 Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Kings Scotland: Great x 12 Grand Son of William "Lion" I King Scotland

Kings Franks: Great x 22 Grand Son of Louis "Pious" King Aquitaine I King Franks

Kings France: Great x 15 Grand Son of Robert "Pious" II King France

Ancestors of John Braye 2nd Baron Braye -1557

GrandFather: John Bray of Eaton Bray

Father: Edmund Braye 1st Baron Braye

John Braye 2nd Baron Braye 12 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

GrandFather: Richard Halwell of Halwell in Devon

Mother: Jane Halwell Baroness Bray 11 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Thomas Norbury

Great x 3 Grandfather: John Norbury 9 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Matilda Pembridge 8 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 2 Grandfather: Henry Norbury 8 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandfather: Thomas Boteler 4th Baron Sudeley 8 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 3 Grandmother: Elizabeth Boteler 7 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 4 Grandmother: Alice Beauchamp Baroness Sudeley 6 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

Great x 1 Grandfather: John IV Norbury 9 x Great Grand Son of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England

GrandMother: Jane Norbury 10 x Great Grand Daughter of King Henry I "Beauclerc" England